altec a7 vs klipschorn

I hope you are aware the A7 is an industrial looking box intended to be custom finished for residential use. I know of several people who have made than change. Be sure to try several listening locations. Discussion in 'Speakers' started by sansuisammy, Feb 19, 2010. For two rather I have never heard the 19 pitted against the Khorn, but I agree that it is a very good speaker. UPDATE: The forums, gallery and advanced search upgrades have been purchased. UPDATE: The forums, gallery and advanced search upgrades have been purchased. Hey! I think Klipsch made basically three speakers that were fully horn loaded and finished like furniture for use in home audio systems (as opposed to sound reinforcement applications.) Xovers: The K-horn did this very well considering they had 3 drivers to contend with. Upload or insert images from URL. WebA pair of Altec -- Lansing A7 "Voice of the Theatre" loudspeakers and their domestic counterpart, the Altec Corona, will visit our listening room. wouldn't suggest that any BRAND of speaker is necessarily better, but would say that the speakers all are different. he builds a couple of different size tractrix horns. Price is set at $7499 each and they are available in natural cherry, satin black ash, and American Walnut finishes. Ok, so how different would the K-401 compare to the Tactrix? First off, and IMO very importantly, the 19s have much better extended HF responseinfact, the Khorns don't go much over 17k. IMO, PWK's most significant contribution, really a triumph in audio, was the K-horn. I have become increasing aware of some really nice looking vintage Altec Lansing speakers that are horn loaded. Off the topic, I have just bought a pair of Gradient SW-63s, a pair of dipole subs specifically designed to accompany Quad ESL-63s. feet or more from any corner in which there are Khorns. The network is fine, but like the guys are saying, the 811b is only good to a but below 800 Hz. Can only be mitigated, as in your room or my friend with the Khorns in the large room that is, for some reason, magically optimized for these speakers. Altec Model 19 vs Klipsch La Scala - Vinnie - High Efficiency Speaker Asylum Altec Model 19 vs Klipsch La Scala Posted by Vinnie (A) on November 12, 2009 at 17:50:19 Wondering if anyone has ever had the oppurtunity to hear these two classic speakers side by side? WebVoice of the Theatre A7-500-8 For smaller theatres, or where space is at a premium for multitrack systems, the A7 is the choice. Powered with Mc240 or audio refinement SS amp. It takes me about a month of really careful listening and comparison to really get over this novelty effect and come to an understanding of what each pair of speakers really sounds like. The Khorn would be pushing it to get to 450Hz on the upper crossover point, IMO. The sound is very good. Interesting. I do NOT recommend that combination. You can't crossover the LaScala or Klipschorn that high. 1420514048 Altec A7 What to do Hello all, a Friend of mine has had Altec Lansing A7's sitting in his basement for several years, just couldn't put them in his current room setting. By clicking Subscribe, I agree to receive exclusive offers & promotions, news & reviews, and personalized tips for buying and selling on Reverb. 2.8k. Sounds like you have found them underwhelming. The difference between A5 and A7 is the HF horn: the former uses one of the multi cells, the latter the sectoral type horn. In my experience, the Model 19 is preferable to either Klipsch speaker I owned. Your previous content has been restored. Altec horn numbers give you a hint to the low frequency cut off of the horn. The owner had used them with 311-90 horns and some 288's. I suggest a new Altec 902 from Great Plans Audio. Schu You can use them anywhere, as they are no longer corner horns. With that said I think there are much better Altec Midrange Horns and Drivers than are in the Stock Khorn. Your purchases also help protect forests, including trees traditionally used to make instruments. Waiting on Xenforo to set a date for installing the upgrades. If I can help any one with specific questions, PM or email me. You didn't specify in your posting what particular Klipsch speakers you are thinking of, and most respondents have referred to various herita You can build better new for under $700 a pair plus rational-size DIY cabs. :yes: http://community.klipsch.com/forums/p/91402/1318610.aspx, (You must log in or sign up to reply here. Please check the fields highlighted in red. Waiting on Xenforo to set a date for installing the upgrades. It should outperform IME the Klipsch version (s) to a degree in that its rear-loaded horn is more defined rather than a simple slot at the rear of the cabinet. both 811 and 511 sound far better than K-400. And in the Cornwall, a full-range domestic loudspeaker that is well regarded, a direct radiator, ported bass is used. I would like to get one of these bass cabinets, mount a 511B Just something different often sounds better at first. You'll have to listen for yourself and see what "does it" for you. Thank you for your input, Daddy Dee, I'll go with the new Khorns. It may be worth noting that in their newest hi-end product, Klipsch uses direct radiator bass. They are even more efficient than the Altec A7's, which have a maximum efficiency of 103dB. It will! You need to talk with Al Klappenberger of ALK fame, I think that he's got all of that in his Belles. Therefore, of course I agree. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. how hard is it to fix or replace the horn on a 19? I had to "eq" the tar out of it just to get it to go flat up to 7500 Hz where I crossed it over to the tweeter. In a graph some of us have seen, they appear to be down 5dB at about 34 Hz, with a narrow, anomalous little dip at 60 Hz in the Klipsch anechoic chamber, but the chamber only has sidewall support out to about 4 feet. Studio monitor class. You may want to slack off a little, so your positive comments regain an appropriate level of credence. ok .. point taken .. whaddabout the EV 350t biradial ..?? The A7-500-8 features improved high-frequency projection over the A7-8, but both are less sensitive and capable of slightly less maximum acoustic output than the A5X. Altec spec sheets show 30hz- 20khz freq response, Khorns show 33hz- 17khz. technical data seem to indicate the Jubs would be better. While the Khorn spec sheet shows it going down to only 33Hz -- actually 34 or 35Hz on spec sheets of some vintages, and the Altec sheet shows 30 Hz, I ran Room EQ WIzard on my Khorns and they were about -3 dB at 30 Hz, and extend to about 22.5 Hz at - 10 dB. he also builds one for Khorn with the option of a replacement Khorn tophat motorboard if desired. Many Altec sheets used to say their tweeters went out to 22K Hz, but I have never seen this confirmed by other testers. The K-horns play so deep, down to 20 cycles, that you don't need a sub. UPDATE: The forums, gallery and advanced search upgrades have been purchased. This website and its contents are copyright 2020 KCK Media Corp. All rights reserved. I like hustling up nice horns at a good price and I'm really less concerned about the specific brand. I can't wait to hear this setup! I can't listen to the Klipsch for very long periods of time on SS. 19 thread, []. Given that he did, I thought he might want to know that as big of hammer that the Khorn is, there are in fact, bigger hammers out there. It's futile. Yes, the A7s didn't have a great low frequency response, and their high end i have these .. i don't view them as overly bright but then You can post now and register later. The midrange is from the direct-radiating cone woofer and not from a horn-loaded trouble is , they were both working, and then at a later time the horn was not working on one of them. I still think the best driver for the Khorn is the later K55V or K55M. Based on your location, we've changed your settings: GREAT!!! actually better than many expensive gears I heard. Posted January 20, 2005. They are making new ones for original Altec tools. Powered by Invision Community. Upload or insert images from URL. Dr Morbius a new pair of Khorns will sound fabulous. It's fine when when within the scope of purchase, but when brought up all the time, and recommended for consideration when thousands over budget, multiple friends have indicated in passing that excessive Klipsch shilling is almost as bad as the Bose bashing. Coytee, will you EVER stop pushing Jubilees? bluesboy We will let you know in advance of AK going offline during the upgrade install. As any one who has spent very much time & experimentation in this hobby soon learns the significance of room & our personal hearing choice & cost is a major consideration. excellent in a small room and in a big room, word of mouth and You need the Altec 511b horn instead. One nice thing about this dilemma is that if you buy used speakers of this quality at a reasonable price, you can live with them for a few months or years and get most or all of your money out of them when you sell them. Yes, the A7s didn't have a great low frequency response, and their high end response was only as good as the khorns. I built him a set of MTM's and delivered them for Christmas. Absolutely not.what a silly question.[] Alas, those of us saddled by SWMBO and WAF to the K-400 must still seek nervana! $12,000), the finish DOES matter to a significant degree. Display as a link instead, I have owned all the Heritage series except the Bella's & the Chorus, In my listening room (without good corners & several other undesirable architectural traits, the Jubs have given me the best performance. I have a pair of corner horn speakers that I built myself. I've used tractrix mid horn replacements in my vintage Khorns and now in my LaScalas. Hell I'd love to have a pair of each. That is indeed a beautiful 2a3 amp, did you build it Arash? I just got hold (next week) of some ALK B X-overs. i'm currently using the one built as a drop in replacement for LaScala. could you say more about your experience with jubs? They pioneered two way design and were the industry standard in recording studios for years. I have a friend who owns these very speakers and I would like to suggest something to him. Clear editor. Enjoy my friends, now back to our Altec mdl. This matches the High Fidelity review of the Khorns from December 1963, which states that the Khorns bass "extended smoothly to well below 30 cycles [cycles per second being Hz in '60s talk], with doubling occuring at about 20 to 23 cycles, depending on how hard the system was driven." The Klipschorns are built with the K-401 mid horn. The driver on my 511B horn is the Altec 808-8a CD. Please. ALTEC 604-HPLN (High Power Less Network) had 421 8 woofer LF + 16 HF diaphragm, so the. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. While the K77 does not extend as far as the aforementioned tweeters, it is a little more toned down/mellower by comparison? Thus even Altecs and JBLs that used direct-radiating woofers had much of the midrange horn-loaded. June 12, 2007 in 2-Channel Home Audio. The original K55 is still good enough though. In my personal opinion the K-horn is , as I ca. We will let you know in advance of AK going offline during the upgrade install. So much of your preference depends on your listening habits, the kind of music you prefer, your room, electronics, etc. The K77 won't fit if you mount the 511 on the motorboard of the LaScala. the Amazon Associates Program via amazon.com. Funny that this would come back up? The thoughts of previous posts are right on. I still to date have both speakers and like them for thier strengt this can result in this site earning a commission. Its all about compromise because nothing does it all well. By Not my intent at all. Yes, the A7s didn't have a great low frequency response, and their high end response That would be like saying that you disagree that we are on planet earth. Waiting on Xenforo to set a date for installing the upgrades. Paste as plain text instead, Your link has been automatically embedded. Hey, I don't mind Coytee mentioning Jubs, but I spoke with a Klipsch technician and he said for my sized room 12' x 15' and 10' high (with the Khorns on the 15' wall) the Khorns would be the better fit sonic wise over the Jubilees. I personally don't care for the Altec horns. They just sound "off" and I dunno how else to describe it. I would much sooner go with an EV or JBL, b In picking out a speaker, I would rank extended listening as much more important than spec sheets, or even independent testing. I know you'll enjoy the process of getting a new pair of these legendary speakers! $1700 Firm takes all. Does it have to do with the dispersion properties of the horns? The Altecs haved dynamics coupled with an effortlessness that's essentially unmatched by anything else even close to reasonably sized or priced. They have the most advanced crossovers which are really fine tuned for the drivers. 730 driver: 106 dB SPL Cell Configuration 2x5 Throat single throat 30210. I really don't think its as cut and dry as some of you guys say and out of the two systems, if anyone is a limitied compromise, I really feel its the Khorn. In any case, you will want to experiment with Full fledged folded horns of Klipsch don't have the step down in the curve as the Altecs do inw their straight axis short horn/bass reflex co ', Sorry for that , but I cant agree . I'll upgrade it with some Amphenol RCA and WBT binding posts and Mundorf silver-gold caps. Sorry. However- Other than bass (which the 19 likely does better than the small, ported Valencias) the Valencias leave the Cornies far behind. i'd suggest taking a look at Dave's fastlane audio website. Full fledged folded horns of Klipsch don't have the step down in the curve as the Altecs do inw their straight axis short horn/bass reflex combo, where the rear radiation of the cone attempts to put out as much sound as the front horn, which, of course, it can't. What they share is their horn design and their efficiency. OTOH, the smaller Altec drivers have much better HF extention than the 288's so they might be just great. Your purchases help youth music programs get the gear they need to make music. They have the most advanced crossovers which are really fine tuned for the drivers. Anyone want to swap there Jub's for Altec 19's? Take heart, there will soon be an answer to the WAF and the horn upgrade! Altec 19s win for me. I have owned both and I felt the 19's had a flatter response with a more realistic sound. Very much a turnkey speaker system. true obstructions (like the side of a bookcase, or other furniture 4 a new pair of Khorns will sound fabulous. Altec specs are also not necessarily useful. I would stick with full fledged horns. July 7, 2009 in Technical/Restorations. If you were more specific about what Klipsches you are thinking about, you would get more informed answers. What do you recommend? WebBuy Klipsch Heritage here: https://paducahhometheater.com/collections/klipsch-heritagePaducah Home Theater / PHT TV - Ep. A design by John Hilliard, Altec Lansing Voice of the Theatre systems originally targeted movie theaters. dkalsi No for the reason above. Altec horns most certainly shout, just like any other, perhaps even more so. List price was $599; list price of the A7 was $299.40. They claim 800hz crossover and are fully functional with attenuation knobs on them. By I am interested in mating my K55M to an Altec 511 but have been having trouble finding them. WebSet of 2 Two Vintage Altec Lansing A7 Speakers Wood Cabinets . Been using 511b/902-16a on top of 75' Cornwall bins. For those with much mor eknowledge than I, what are the sound differences? Well you'll see lots of guys around here modding their Klipsch speakers with various Altec compression drivers, horns and woofers but I've NEVER seen Altec guys modding their speakers with Klipsch parts. The La Scala has the BAD K400 squawker horn from the Klipschorn and the Cornwall has the higher Pasted as rich text. Have fun with it. Yes, I use JBL 2426h drivers on 811b horns in my Belles. No mean feat. Changing either one is vertually impossible without a total redesign! Yes, the 511 takes up the entire top front of the LaScala. 1) Timbre shifts due to SPL polar control issues vs. frequency - with particular emphasis on both vertical and horizontal polar patterns that are bandpassed due to loss of polar control. Condition: Used Used. You can post now and register later. Edit: Just found 4 on e-Bay, if the price stays low enough might pull the plug on three. He has them in a very large room and they sound very nice as it is, but there is definitely room for improvement. What is the amplification used for Amphion and how do they sound? Regarding the 511 change I have a split center, I think I am going to by a single horn and build a new HF box for it to A/B and decide from there. sweet. 811 sounds just like 511 but 511 has a higher cutt-off frequency. 1) Good horns tend to sound more like other good horns than non-horn speakers. Both of these are good brands, IMO. As always, it's I want him to try them out. This is a win-win situation. I've only heard a modded model 19's and they were amazing. Did he say why (in detail)? I currently own both. They both do differnt things well. I have to say that if I put the amount of money into the Altecs that I have in Fits standard Altec Drivers 1.4 3-bolt Dimensions 37 1/2" W x 19" H x 31" D Weight 30.5 lbs each unpacked. Including the guy who had $500 and was thinking of Fortes. I'm also thinking about replacing the T-35 tweeters with Beyma CP-25s. Secondly, the altecs easliy go down to 30hz. Yes, the A7s didn't have a great low frequency response, and their high end response was only as good as the khorns. The Khorn bass was better. The jubs have been in the house about 7 months now, & I have only listened, have not even started the cosmetic plans of staining the center panel's to match walls & still kicking around different options for grill cloth etc. The classic look of this iconic loudspeaker is completed through the use of retro software luster grill cloth that includes a cast zinc Klipschorn logo. A7s or Model 19's, both sound mushy compared to Khorns. Discussion in 'Speakers' started by timsclips, Sep 28, 2013. The entire series was gradually expanded for use in general sound reinforcement and later converted in extreme high-end audio segments for hi-fi home use. Biggest Improvement I made in Audio in over 30 years when I Installed these. Your previous content has been restored. 1 watched in the last 24 hours. bookshelves or whatever to break up reflections. Regulars. I noticed you used JBL drivers in your Belles. If your ears aren't tuned to it, that's one thing, but this isn't some mystical idea that I'm suggesting. Klipsch was a brilliant engineer, but I think the midrange driver, K 55 V, he used in the heritage line was not of exceptionally high quality. Dorsey knows cinema sound inside and out, and in this article he shares his personal thoughts about these highly valued horn designs, and provides valuable tips on how to restore them. Quote. I don't have the Model 19's but do have the Model 18 with the 604 8H driver and prefer the mids over the Khorns.The mids are much smoother.I like the point source driver the best. Looks like maybe 1940's vintage 2A3 tubes, too. Just an observation, but i find it kind of interesting how many of those who have arrived at 19's have owned Cornwalls at some point along their journey. Are they really that different??? There was a whole range of Voice of the Theatre loudspeakers -- the A5 and A7 are probably the most common. Some call them plug uglies, but I could care less when I am listening, for me its all about the reproduction of music. and get rid of my large directs radiator subs, for an all-horn system top to bottom! Some of you talk about the 19s as tho they were the A7 voice of the theaters. Q-man and Rick are both excellent resources on this subject. As everyone says, a lot depends on the room, especially with Khorns. The 19s go beyond 20k with the original diapgragms in them. Price: US $4,000.00. Look man, I hate to break it to you but all horns shout. Yeh. ). absorbers & diffusers -- or at least a few wall hangings and Materion Truextent makes replacement diaphragms, http://alteclansingunofficial.nlenet.net/publications/techletters/AN-11_EnclosurePlans.pdf. I've been building a small collection of Altec, JBL, Klipsch, and Dukane speaker drivers and complete speakers. We will let you know in advance of AK going offline during the upgrade install. Free shipping for many products! The bass is routed out of the front, up and down each side and not the back. I said that because any time anyone mentions obtaining Klipsch on other forums, you ALWAYS mention Jubilees if you post in the thread. These were Klipschorns, Jubilees and LaScalas. you note that the jubilees, 'in themselves have not made me a happier man. ). HERES Why Your Subwoofer is Bottoming Out (And How to FIX It!) Scaling it up for a 15" woofer would be a very interesting project. Notice how you can't name a single one that doesn't? Their top of the line residential unit at the time was the Laguna, with two 803B LF drivers and a 511B horn with 802D HF driver. Thanks for the info on your Klipschorn modded with tactrix mids. Both companies make speakers lots of people like. You cannot paste images directly. The A7 (pictured here) is I have put a lot of Labor heard them, though. Just because you/me/anyone might already know about them doesn't mean he does. glad to hear you are enjoying the Altecs. You won't regret it! Makes this a great hobby. The Aristocrat is a contemporary of the Klipsch "Rebel/Shorthorn". As far as the JBL/Beyma tweeters go, I am less certain about that. The JBL driver has a continuous roll off. Now whether that is something I have accepted and learned to live with over time or just naturally prefer I cant say, but I am fond of it. Even our host has spoken at length about horn shout on this very forum. Your link has been automatically embedded. http://forums.klipsch.com/idealbb/view.asp?topicID=53469, you will love the 511/ 902 driver combo, with maybe an ev 350, or beyma tweeter. So triumphant in fact that JBL, Electrovoice, and Vitavox all bought license and based some of their own "statement" loudspeakers on the K-horn. Add to cart. Your previous content has been restored. Klipsch may have gotten the 34 Hz figure from that test, knowing that they would go considerably lower in many rooms. They also sound terrific at extremely low SPLs (I have never heard "fade-outs" reproduced better than on Altec drivers) as well as at concert sound levels. He was thrilled. It weighs about 220 lb. The Model 19 was intended and designed as a domestic loudspeaker, not for theatre sound reinforcement. When you post a question like yours on the Klipsch Forum, you will find many respondents that prefer Klipsch speakers. Much better bass than the A7 cabinet. I have never been a fan of aluminum or titanium tweeters. What driver would you recommend for the 511B horn? Display as a link instead, Either way, "shout" is not a term that I would personally describe the sound of Altec horns, other than making a reference to basic sonic characteristics that are inherent in any horn loaded speaker system. 811 is 800Hz, 511 is 500Hz, 311 is 300Hz. You can post now and register later. By definition, then, the one on the left is an A7 type. All of the different speakers & various amps have been a wonderful learning experience along the way, I was financially fortunate enough to take my hobby & Klipsch journey to Mr. Pauls final creation,. I suggest mounting the tweeter in the very top in one side of the woofer horn mouth. Pasted as rich text. each and is known to produce a sound pressure level of 105 dB with just 1 watt. I have a few other sets of speakers thru out the house (Cornwalls, Pioneer, Sansui, Advents) & enjoy them all for what they are. it sounds ultimately good and accurate. Here's the 1953 plans. Those wooden horns look very cool. It's a home-build DIY 6SN7 driven 2A3 3.5Wpc amp: very nice 2A3 amp. Your link has been automatically embedded. Well said Gary. Very objective reply. tc In fact, by the end of the year, I wll have horn loaded subwoofers to 22 hz. Happy to say more about the Jubs guys. The entire series was gradually expanded for use in general sound reinforcement and later converted in extreme high-end audio segments for hi-fi home use. "The weak point is that K501 and K401 horn itself!". Some of you talk about the 19s as tho they were the A7 voice of the theaters. Last edited: Apr 26, 2022 I have owned Cornwalls and Klipschorns and presently have a pair of Altec Lansing Model 19s. Not in my house)was directed at Arash, whom I was concerned had mistaken my words for arrogance & gloating over the expensive Jubs as being the one & only, "best of the best" . WebSomething that needs to be mentioned is that the Altec A5, A6 and A7 use the same main cabinets, the 828. dkalsi Affiliate programs and If someone is contemplating new Khorns then I think they might want to know about the Jubilee's. It is funnyI have read this post before and I just spotted a pair of 19s in a local pawn shop todayI did not give it much though and then lau Which is why, I have a preference for running multiple systems at the same time, When I am running my A7's with tube amplification, I am also running two other systems with conventional designed tower speakers, powered by solid state amps. I had an Altec 19 for myself much years ago , I compared these pair of Altecs with a K-horn . (You must log in or sign up to reply here. The only comparison plots I did was of the K55 on an Altec 511b horn versus on a K501 (Belle) horn. I don't know about the 811, but I had a 511 that I was using in place of the K-400 in my La Scala's, and it was night and day better than the K-400. The Klipschorn is all horn-loaded (the Heresy is not in the woofer), weighs 175 lbs (each) and stands 51 inches tall. My experiences have found them a little too bright and crisp. Bloody awesome info! First let me say my post ( Mdl 19 is a two way, perhaps we should be comparing it to the Klipsch IMO the Altec Model 19 was the best turnkey speaker ever made. Many may know that I've been building for about 35 years. They are HUGE and so is their sound. 290 driver: 116 dB SPL. Was that a tough job fittin' them in the Khorn??? Naturally, keep all Upload or insert images from URL. Klipsch makes an awful lot of speakers. Had he not made his comment about buying a new pair of Khorns, I would have not said anything. "Are the Vintage altecs as desirable as the klipsch seems to be?". The weak point is that K501 and K401 horn itself! Of couse, I am wasting my breath on a Klispch forum typing thishaha. Sound 80 mix-masters could achieve 110+dB at the console. Sorry for that , but I cant agree . i have a set put away, i havent brought them out in a long long time. The A7-500-8 features improved high-frequency I would like to try a K-55/511b combo running them down to 400 Hz. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. I have never been of the opinion, that any speaker is best at everything, including my A7's. In listening to the A7 in one corner, and the Khorn in the other, I felt the Khorn was warmer and brassier, while the A7 was colder. $178.24 for 24 months with PayPal Credit* Buy It Now. I don't pretend to presume that just because you don't care to hear about them that someone else that (might not know about them) doesn't. Good condition items function properly but may exhibit some wear and tear. (e.g., check the vertical polar pattern on the Iwata profile horn that you propose, not just the horizontal pattern), and Log in or register to post comments; Do tell. Clear editor. That is why so many "tweakers' swap them out for Altec, JBL or other drivers. How about a University SA-H? It will work ok at 400 Hz. I have Khorns, 19's, A-7s, and larger VOTTs. I tested them using some Altec CDs and also K-55 and Selenium D-250X. Display as a link instead, The classic Altec and JBL 2-way horn systems also crossed-over low, generally at either 500 or 800hz. I know that the new 2004's are rated at having a 450Hz crossover at a 6db slope, but previously, the "accepted" value was 400Hz or a bit lower like 375Hz. Just sent an email to my friend. Like a Klipschorn 20 great HF watts is all you will ever need. UPDATE: The forums, gallery and advanced search upgrades have been purchased. WebVoice of the Theatre A7-500-8 For smaller theatres, or where space is at a premium for multitrack systems, the A7 is the choice. Well you'll see lots of guys around here modding their Klipsch speakers with various Altec compression drivers, horns and woofers but I've NE Altec spec sheets show 30hz- 20khz freq response, Khorns show 33hz- 17khz. Discussion in 'Speakers' started by Coolhandjjl, Jun 4, 2010. Intriguing, Daddy Dee, but I think (since the wife is just a little tired of my projects) I'll go with what we already planned on which is a new pair of Klipschorns.unless you think getting an older pair of Khorns and modding it like you did with the Tractrix is really the way to go? Altec Horn System Transform your Klipschorns Complete Midrange Swap for Klipschorn. Although I have had Khorns sound good January 19, 2005 in Technical/Restorations. But saying that you disagree with my statement makes no sense. I have both 811 and 511 horns and also K-400. In my personal opinion the K-horn is , as I ca. I think you both will like them very much, both for their aesthetic qualities and their incredible sound. By I would like to get pair of commercial K-horns. I miss them sometimes, but the La Scalas, while not excavating the depths of low end response, still do a very satisfactory job.

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